[blfs-support] Iced Tea again!!!!!
me at pc-networking-services.com
me at pc-networking-services.com
Sun Mar 23 03:30:01 PDT 2014
> Em 23-03-2014 06:15, me at pc-networking-services.com escreveu:
>>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 01:01:18PM +1300, me at pc-networking-services.com
>>>> Well this is ridiculous. I have reached the point after a few days of
>>>> installing the systemd 7.5 version of LFS, and going through the
>>>> configuration of quite a number of other packages following BLFS 7.5
>>>> stable to the point of having a working graphical interface, so decide
>>>> is a good time to install java again.
>>>> I set everything up as per the instructions, which I did when I first
>>>> it up following the previous version of LFS.
>>>> This time round though I can NOT even get the blasted thing to
>>>> have even reverted back to the iced tea 2.4.1 and get EXACTLY the same
>>>> Please note that in between changing the versions I have deleted the
>>>> for the CURRENT 7.5 stable version. The only thing that I did not do
>>>> to delete /usr/share/java before extracting the earlier binary and
>>>> supporting files.
> Well, I hope that you have really followed the instructions.
>>> I'm not particularly familiar with java at the moment, but I've
>>> built icedtea-2.4.2 twice - once in October/November, in a general
>>> test, once on 7.5 because I overlooked that the old version was
>>> invoked from the script :-( and I then built 2.4.5 on 7.5.
>>> I've now looked at my last 2.4.2 log, and I see the sort of
>>> information you have posted above, just over 4000 lines into the
>>> build. In your case, I am worried by the warnings about unzip and
>>> zip, and baffled by the error that 'make' seems not to have been
>>> found. And after one Error, I think all bets for subsequent
>>> messages are off, in the same way that in a compilation failure we
>>> have to look at the first error. I assume you haven't run out of
>>> disk space, or filled up /tmp ? Rebuilding gcc seems an extreme
>>> suggestion (unless someone intends using gcc's java to bootstrap
>>> icedtea), so I'm not exactly surprised that it didn't help.
>>> But just to be clear : you can still build both C and C++ packages ?
>>> For me, the pain of scripting java was in working out what to add
>>> to the builder's (for me, that is the big guy, whose username begins
>>> with 'r') PATH - and, of course, remembering to set up my own PATH
>>> when I actually had to try to use java. Is it possible that you
>>> screwed up something in that area ? I find it hard to believe that
>>> you could have _lost_ the normal PATH (which would account for the
>>> zip, unzip, make messages), because at least in 2.4.2 the first part
>>> of the build looks to be a conventional configure which would crap
>>> out if /usr/bin was no longer in the PATH.
>>> The only other things I might query are whether you correctly
>>> installed the binary openjdk, and whether you applied all the
>>> icedtea patches ? Oh, and you ought to re-download the current
>>> version, because it was a vulnerability fix.
>>> In my own script for building icedtea, I set the following before I
>>> try to build the BLFS-7.5 version:
>>> export JAVA_HOME=/opt/OpenJDK-22.214.171.124-bin
>>> export ANT_HOME=/opt/ant
>>> export CLASSPATH=/usr/share/java:/usr/share/java/junit-4.11
>>> export PATH="$PATH:/opt/OpenJDK-126.96.36.199-bin/bin:/opt/ant/bin"
>>> I will hazard a guess that ANT_HOME has not yet come into play when
>>> your build fails, but the other parts - with whichever version of
>>> the OpenJDK bin you have installed - need to be set appropriately.
>>> das eine Mal als TragÃ¶die, dieses Mal als Farce
>> When people are TESTING the versions of the book before making them a
>> release I am having a very hard time believing that what they are doing
>> compile the package and what they have written that they have done are
>> exact same things. If they were, then someone such as me who is
>> through the written instructions and copying and pasting them exactly
>> would be able to make it work from a bare hard drive. This is clearly
>> the case.
> I am having a hard time believing that you have followed through the
> written instructions. When we do that, some times we forget some step.
> Ken, who was very kind replying above, does copy and paste instructions
> to update packages, but has all scripted.
> I always script. Occasionally, I copy and paste.
> It is a little difficult to try and help someone who explicitly writes
> not to trust us. If you do not trust us, will you trust our help? Also,
> if you do not trust us, then you do not trust the book, why then spend
> so much time building it?
> Still trying to help, although I do not believe you will trust what I am
> going to write: the best thing to do is to script. Copy and paste to a
> script and use it to install. Later, you can check if something was
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I get the point you make Fernando. I am sorry but I have written
technical documentation myself for server setups and I guess I have a
different approach with regards to it. I am frustrated because I HAVE
followed the instructions to the letter.
I do not script ANYTHING if I can avoid it. I like to see what is going
on and fix any issues that come up.
My approach to testing technical writing is to do the installation and
document every step that I have done at the time and after the
installation is completed, then I expand my notes and put it into proper
sentences and steps, then I go through the server setup as per my own
written instructions and make sure that they are correct.
Sorry for sounding harsh, I am not meaning to be.
I also notice that the issues I am having are to do with the fact that the
SYSTEMD version of the BLFS book was taken offline. I have downloaded the
svn copy and am trying to get it converted to html so I can see the
Please if someone can tell me if copying the contents of /usr/bin to /bin
will cause any major issues I would appreciate it. I need this working as
I have spent way too many hours getting to this point to have to trash it
yet again and ditch the systemd version and go through the other LFS
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