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Richard Lightman richard at
Sat Oct 19 10:21:45 PDT 2002

Apologies for messing up the threading, but at this time, I do not have
incomming email.

> Wow, someone has a messed up smtp setup.  Sucks to be Richard, atm ;)
> Guess he wont know about this e-mail then... anyone know another addy he
> uses?

Thanks Jesse, I got your post off the news server, and I am studying it
carefully to make sure it is not my fault before complaining.

If you know what is wrong, you can try e-mailing me at:
escapedrat at

I do not yet know it this webmail account works, as it does not show
test messages from me.  I will also check the newsgroup.

Here is what is going on:

I had:  imap->fetchmail->qmail-smtpd->qmail changed their imap server to Courier-IMAP, and this gave me:
fetchmail: SSL connection failed.

Their web mail interface did not work either.

Apparently 'a small number' of other users were experiencing
difficulties. Perhaps this small number of people caused their normally
prompt support line to take ages to answer.

As the problem was not fixed in 24 hours, I decided to switch to smtp.
Much to my embaressment, I opened the wrong port on my firewall, and
thus wasted some at plus net to discover. They believed the next problem
was that I had no mail pending, so I asked them to send me something:

2002-10-19 07:17:15.428579500 tcpserver: pid 21410 from
2002-10-19 07:17:41.708853500 tcpserver: ok 21410
2002-10-19 07:19:43.151323500 tcpserver: end 21410 status 256

And there it is, the last email I received (and bounced because their
sales team send spam from support at

> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
> <richard at>:
> failed after I sent the message.
> Remote host said: 554 too many hops, this message is looping (#5.4.6)
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
> Return-Path: <highos at>
> Received: (qmail 17544 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2002 08:40:26 -0000
> Received: from (
>   by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Oct 2002 08:40:26 -0000
> Received: (qmail 11419 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2002 08:39:14 -0000
> Received: from unknown (HELO (
>   by with SMTP; 19 Oct 2002 08:39:14 -0000
> Received: (qmail 12612 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2002 08:37:47 -0000
> Received: from (
>   by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Oct 2002 08:37:47 -0000

I did not see my domain name or ip address in that list of Received:'s,
so I am guessing it is not my fault. It would be too embarassing to be
wrong twice in a row, so I will re-read the qmail docs.


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