a little requiest

David D.W. Downey david.downey at codecastle.com
Tue Aug 29 20:43:57 PDT 2000

Dude, what the hell is your problem? This guy is doing this cause he WANTS
to. he doesn't HAVE to.

The guy isn't a major book store like WROX PRESS or O'Reilly. He's a guy
like the rest of us trying to do his best to contribute back to the
Get off your damn high horse and friggin write it BETTER if you have a
problem with how he's doing it. Most of us out here giving stuff back tot
he community are doing it by ourselfs in the late night hours when we
should be sleeping making the REST of the world think we are either crazy
or vampires!

I am developing KiXO Linux and have spent gobs and gobs of hours on
it. You are right it's not perfect. it could be improved. It has bugs, but
it's a work of love and effort. Neither he, I, nor anyone else out here  
are PAID for doing what we do.

Until he gets paid for writing this in his spare time you got a HELL of a
lot of nerve crackin off about. Make it stabler!, I do this and I do that
and I never would..

Well I certainly don't see you offering to take over writing certain
sections of the book, nor do I see you offering to proof read/write the
book, NOR do i see you offering to tech the book for accuracy. 

I DO however see you telling him how he can do it better with a nasty ass
tone. I DO see you berating what he's done WITHOUT offering to help fix

You don't like it's instability? Then get the heck into the fray and fix
it! Send him a aptch against the text to automatically fix the book.

If you are not going to do that, then whine somewhere else.


On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, andru sprott wrote:

> > +-andru sprott-(andru at btinternet.com)-[22.08.00 06:29]:
> > > windows has prompted me to try lfs again, so i'm goin to
> > > use 2.3.7. but one thing, i notice from this list that many
> > > errors are in the book, but there don't seem to be any
> > > corrections made to it.
> > There are many corrections, but Gerard does not make "service packs"
> > available... Just wait for the next stable release and nearly everything
> > should be fixed. BTW. 2.4 is going to come in less than a week.
> and then errors creep into 2.4.
> > Or browse through the list-archive from the day G announced  the last
> > version.  All Bugs are described there mostly (always) with a solution.
> not everybody who uses lfs is on the mailin lists.
> > > if possible could you still support the 'older' versions with
> > > their own versions, much the same way that m$ supports
> > > 3.1, 95, 98 etc.
> > I think that would be a little heavy - maintaining this kind of book is
> > quite much work. And especially - a book-version is not such a big
> > change like 3.1 to 95 e.g. The minor version-number changes are a kind
> > of bugfix or improvements...
> there is only one stable and one developement version. heck, it's only a
> case of correctin errors and chaingin the micro version number and postin
> it on the site - and it doesn't take all day to upload it.
> it's this sort of 'elite' attitude that sends people away in droves, and
> makes
> the learnin curve for linux really steep.
> also, bein a software developer myself, it is hard to accept how so many
> errors can creep into the book. after all, it is a program of a kind. when i
> write a batch of code, i always read thru it to check for syntax errors.
> and after that i debug it. and there are many 'what if' situations that have
> to be anticipated and checked.
> what's more, what about the many people who are not on these lists and
> never find out about the fixes posted here. doesn't say much for lfs then.
> but don't get me wrong. i'm not havin a go at lfs, i think it's really good
> and it's just right for me to setup my network. in the end i hope to get
> all machines on linux includin my sparc elc.
> so i hope this isn't taken as a criticism, but as a requiest to make lfs
> more
> stable.
> andrew

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