LFS editor of choice should be vi
ken_i_m at elegantinnovations.com
Fri Dec 1 17:01:53 PST 2000
Jeez, lighten up.
At 01:26 AM 12/2/00 +0100, you wrote:
>Easy? First I have to switch to a different xterm. The I have to navigate
>to the approprite location or enter a full path, taking care to append
>$LFS/ at the beginning (which I constantly forget when coming from
>chroot). And of course I have to do that as root because of permissions,
>which makes me feel very uneasy because I could screw up my base system if
>I confused the chroot and the non-chroot xterms (as I've mentioned
>elsewhere, prompts don't help me much).
>May I ask when you started with Unix? If the answer lies 10 years back,
>you *are* an old-schooler. Of course I should have added
>"and their apprentices" to account for the people who are not old-
>schoolers themselves but have (had) an old-school mentor.
>I'm sure you and your colleagues fall either in the old-school mentor or
>apprentice category unlike the masses of new *nix end users who didn't
>even exist a few years back when *nix was only used by a few highly
>specialized individuals. The new *nix users, the people that populate the
>newbie newsgroups are more like Windows users (many of them *are*). They
>are the people who made Redhat and SuSE as successful as they are now.
>They are the driving force behind current *nix developments like KDE and
>GNOME. It's the Windows generation of Unix users. Whether you like it or
>not, they will take over (they probably have already, when looking just at
>numbers) the *nix scene. Vi is not part of the average KDE desktop and
>nowadays this is almost the same as vi not being part of Unix. The same
>applies to joe and pico, of course, even though those could at least be
>used without effort by someone who's grown up with kedit.
>I don't know. A computer scientist doesn't need a command line. And the
>vast majority of professionals, computer scientists or not, earning their
>money with information technology don't need a command line, either as
>they're working on Windows or Mac.
I think, therefore, ken_i_m
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