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Stefan Bagdohn sbagdohn at
Sun Oct 29 23:20:32 PST 2000

On 29-Oct-00 Matthias Benkmann wrote:
>> How does Joe misbehave in kvt?
> First I have to say that I don't really know if it's Joe misbehaving. 
> Actually I think it's more likely a bug in kvt or termcap/terminfo. The 
> phenomenon is as follows:
> I open a new kvt (80x24)  and then start "joe xyz|tee joe1st.log" (the 
> file xyz contains the 2 lines "1234" and "5678")
> Everything is fine.
> I do Ctrl-C to exit joe and then immediately start 
> "joe xyz|tee joe2nd.log"
> and now joe is kinda upside-down. The line that says "Row 1 Col 1" is in 
> the 3rd line from the bottom, the "1234" is in the 2nd line from the 
> bottom and the bottom-most line reads "Joe's Own Editor ...."
> The "5678" is not to be seen at all. The cursor is positioned in the 2nd 
> line from the top and when I move the cursor, the row and column numbers 
> get written to the topmost line.
> Comparing joe2nd.log and joe1st.log yields no differences. It seems that 
> the 1st execution of joe changed the terminal state in some way. Neither 
> "clear" nor "stty sane" makes a difference. 
> But it gets more interesting than that. If I do "export TERM=linux", 
> everything works fine. The error *never* occurs when TERM is set to linux. 
> If I do "joe xyz|tee joe3rd.log" with TERM set to "linux", only 1 byte is 
> different between joe3rd.log and joe2nd.log
> BTW, the default value for TERM is "xterm" when I start kvt and it doesn't 
> matter which terminal type I select in kvt's options.
> Now is this a termcap/terminfo problem, or a kvt problem or a problem in 
> Joe?
Hmm, i also got this kind of strange behaviour in the times i used Joe. That
was not on a LFS-system, but on SuSE. Anyway, i did never find out why joe
misbehaves. Try pressing CTRL-R when getting such an ugly screen. It always
helped me, especially after moving things around. Try it and tell me if it
BTW, this was one reason changing to vi.


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