LFS Etiquette, a reminder.
highos at linuxfromscratch.org
Wed Sep 18 15:23:27 PDT 2002
This is a reminder, approved by Gerard, being sent out on behalf of the
LFS Editors, Developers and System Admins. Could I get everyone to
spend a minute or two and read it through?
I know this was recently posted (which is why this is only being sent to
lfs-dev) and discussed, however the Off-Topic posts and threads have
only gotten worse since then.
Many of us feel people need another reminder, so sorry for those that
have been following this guideline. I don't exactly like adding to the
OT nature of this post either :-)
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Due to the increased volume of traffic currently appearing on the LFS
mailing lists , it's about time for a reminder of mailing list etiquette.
Much of this mail repeats what is in Marc Heerdink's document (see
Resources) but it was felt that we need to remind everyone of these
Which Mailing List
It's important to make sure that you are posting to the correct
list. Just because a thread started on a particular list doesn't mean
it should remain on it. A quick reminder therefore, of the current *LFS
* alfs-discuss: Everything to do with ALFS
* lfs-book: CVS commit / Bugzilla messages and internal
editorial discussions for the LFS book
* lfs-dev: Matters to do with the future development of the LFS book.
* lfs-support: Support for packages in the base LFS book *only*.
* blfs-book: As lfs-book for BLFS
* blfs-dev: As lfs-dev for BLFS
* blfs-support: Support for any packages *not* in the base LFS book;
not just those in the hints/BLFS book. Note that the
development of hints should also be discussed here.
* lfs-chat Anything goes!
If a thread is moving to a discussion of various things (MS v Linux to
take one recent example) *please* move it to lfs-chat and off the
*-support / *-dev mailing lists. For those who only want to see
strictly development and/or support issues, it is exceptionally annoying
to see off-topic messages on those lists when there is a catch-all list
ready and waiting! This is especially important because (at the latest
count), the lfs-support mailing list has around 420 and the blfs-support
list around 530 members, not counting those who use the news servers.
Therefore, if you post a message not related to that list, you are
wasting anywhere upwards of 500 peoples time.
Mailing list email should fit the following criteria:
* Trim quoted material to the minimum needed to clarify what you're
* Make sure you are attributing material to the correct person
(i.e. make sure the "On 19/07/2002, Joe Bloggs said:" is correct)
* Write your responses *after* the quoted text, not before. If your
mail client makes it difficult to do this, get a new one!
* Make sure lines are wrapped at 72 characters (to fit an 80 character
* Post in either HTML-only or in Text and HTML. If your mail client
doesn't support not doing this, please change it.
* Top post
* Give a one line answer having quoted the whole post
* Use too long a signature
* Reply where you should start a new thread
In general, make emails as short as possible whilst keeping them
This can really be summed up in one phrase - 'be polite'.
If you think something is off-topic, don't reply to the list although
you may want to send a short and *polite* note to the person privately
telling then which list would be more appropriate; don't just say -
"that is OT for here".
If someone flames or trolls the list, don't reply - it wastes everyones
Don't reply to spam which gets through to the list - we do use
SpamAssasin on the lists now and this catches most of the spam; it is
inevitable that some will get through so just ignore it when it does.
We also use Razor for spam elimination and Gerard watches the list carefully
for any spam which does get through. When some does (as is inevitable) he
updates the rules in order to prevent it occurring again. This is done
quietly and so there is no need to report it, reply to it or do anything
other than ignore it!
* The ultimate guide to most matters to do with email etiquette is
RFC-2822 which can be found at:
* The following page by Marc Heerdink (one of the LFS team) is recommended
reading on subjects such as:
* Threading and proper MUAs
* HTML E-Mail
(Note that the section on the LFS mailing lists doesn't mention
Many thanks, by sticking to these principles we hope that the LFS
mailing lists will continue to be a fun and informative place.
Any replies to this message should be made to the lfs-chat mailing-list.
The LFS Team
 Any references to mailing lists in this message also apply to the
Jesse Tie-Ten-Quee ( highos at linuxfromscratch dot org )
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