Request For Info - Hotplug Network Plan

Alexander E. Patrakov see at the.sig
Thu Jul 1 21:44:29 PDT 2004

Jim Gifford wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <see at the.sig>
>>I will not move to entirely hotplug-driven setup for the following
> reasons:
>>1) I don't know how well it plays with IPX with current
>>(b)lfs-bootscripts. If the IPX settings are migrated to the main
>>ifconfig.eth0 file, this problem may go away
>>2) This doesn't play well with aliases. This problem will go away when
>>we push all aliases for eth0 into the main ifconfig.eth0 file.
>>3) Network coldplugging won't work at all for network cards compiled not
>>as modules, unless we write a completely custom /etc/hotplug/net.rc file.
>>The reason for network hotplug is merely to support Sharp Zaurus and
>>OpenZaurus users (I don't have Zaurus, but received a support request
>>from one of my friends).
> I'm against the idea myself. We only support an IP environment the last time
> I checked.

You haven't checked this:

> IPRoute2 does do aliases, read the documentation.

It does, and we are actually planning to use this package. The problem 
is just to rewrite the "ifup" script.

> cold plugging of modules can be simplied added to modeprobe.conf
> alias ethx module name

You have not read my mail well enough. I was talking exactly about 
non-modular kernels. The bad thing is that the net hotplug event happens 
when the kernel has not mounted the root filesystem yet and the hotplug 
package has no chance to handle it.

And your statement about alias ethx is valid only for net cards 
undetectable by hotplug (e.g. old ne2000).

> As far as modifying the boot scripts, all hotplug is needed for is to load
> the driver, you don't need a special netrc with the configuration we are
> currently using. I'm using it myself with no issues, the only thing hotplug
> does is load my module for my nic.

Your statement is valid for the current bootscripts. Looks like you have 
not caught the context of this thread. The proposal was:

Implement LFS specifics of network hotplug so that 
/etc/hotplug/net.agent works and brings hotplugged interfaces up. Then 
drop the S20network symlink and rely entirely upon hotplug to bring 
interfaces up.

I am _against_ the proposal above, but for correctness I had to mention 
the (nonexistent in LFS) /etc/hotplug/net.rc file while argumenting my 

I am _for_ the following proposal:

Implement LFS specifics of network hotplug so that 
/etc/hotplug/net.agent works and brings hotplugged interfaces up. 
Provide enough infrastructure to ensure proper communication with e.g. 
Sharp Zaurus over "usb0" interface in all cases involving usbnet being a 
module or non-module and for hot and cold plug cases. Don't fail at boot 
if Sharp Zaurus is not connected.

Alexander E. Patrakov
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