new project: Hive

Sam Barnett-Cormack s.barnett-cormack at
Sun Jul 25 05:48:58 PDT 2004

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, dalriada at wrote:

> Why may I ask are you spamming lfs-dev with this nonsense, Timothy?
> Everyone is not welcome on your project.  I have personal experience with
> not being welcome there.  If you want to advertise create a web site for it
> please.

I would say it would quite readily be of potential interest to LFSers,
and one message like that, of reasonable appropriate-ness, is much less
annoying than a following flurry of moans about it.


> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From:  timothy at (Timothy Bauscher)
> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:39:41 +0000
> To: lfs-dev at
> Subject: new project: Hive
> Hey guys, remember me?
> I am emailing the list about a new project called Hive. This is neither
> the way nor the time that I had planned, but it needs to be done before
> public opinion about Hive is shaped by controling members of your IRC
> channels rather than by your own personal experience.
> This is our mission statement, written in hive style:
> Hive is a bunch of people who are doing whatever they want to do within
> one shared XML syntax. Every profile gets a place in Hive's repository as
> long as it shares the syntax. There are tools available to render or
> automate
> profiles, but you can write new tools to do whatever you want. Hive is your
> playground. As long as you don't mess with the way Hive works, you'll be
> welcomed.
> Hive is more than a fork of LFS. It can hold forks of LFS and new projects
> that might not have anything to do with Linux at all.
> The following people are involved with Hive:
> o Roel Neefs
> o Zack Winkles
> o Timothy Bauscher
> The XML in our profiles is custom and simple to write.
> The same XML source can be used to transform a profile into HTML or shell
> scripts by our own program. A lot of work still needs to be done, such as
> the
> addition of some new tags to the "unstable" profile, an ncurses interface
> which
> combines automation and documentation (an executable book) and a
> re-invention
> of XSL which should make it easy to create templates that can transform our
> into things like makefiles and nalfs profiles.
> You can find html renders of hive profiles here:
> Hive uses SVN at the moment, but we might change to bitkeeper soon,
> especially
> if it keeps crashing:
> svn co svn://
> We're using the ecartis mailing list manager. You can subscribe to our
> mailing
> list by sending an email to ecartis at Put "subscribe
> hive-discuss"
> in the subject of your message.
> The mailing list of course, then, is hive-discuss at
> We're also on IRC, though we're not so friendly there:
>  #hive
> I am sure that some of you will like hive.
> I hope that those who don't will just let us play.


Sam Barnett-Cormack
Software Developer                           |  Student of Physics & Maths
UK Mirror Service (  |  Lancaster University

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