A sad day indeed

Nick Fotopoulos weasel at beyondnormal.org
Mon Jul 26 18:01:18 PDT 2004

On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 09:08 +1000, zeps at ihug.com.au wrote:
> True it is, A lot of people are being removed for association with the 
> hive project. And the only explination thats been offered so far is 
> because of the actions of Zack.
> Its like nuking a city because 1 guy did the wrong thing.
> Ive have left #lfs-support, I belive the aproach taken by Ronald 
> removing anyone who had or has associations with Hive or Zack, Is 
> completly the wrong way to go. Especilly if you dont want them to join 
> the fork.
> Were else are they going to go?
> Regarding what Zack has suposidly done, So far the owner of the machine 
> has taken no legal actions. Makes me wonder how seriously he is actually 
> taking it, Compared to Ronald.

I think Jeremy took it pretty seriously, but he also handled things in a
mature, and rational manner.  Very much unlike Ronald, who is known for
his lashing out over stupid things.  He didn't go banning everyone who
refused to de-friend Zack, thats for sure.

> Besides, "on your honer" security models get riped apart in legal 
> investigations.
> In any case, Im sure we can expect some users in lfs-support who show 
> the same attitude as zippo to be baned. Especilly if they post the chat 
> session they had with Ronald. To bad zippo had the idea first, Or id 
> have posted many a chat, Regarding silly nit-picking interigations like 
> this.
> -Zeplin
Nick Fotopoulos

"Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool."

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