Hotplug patches from Debian

Ken Moffat ken at kenmoffat.uklinux.net
Fri Jun 4 07:03:41 PDT 2004


On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:

> >
> >  My understanding, at least for the udev side, was that Greg K-H was
> > using gentoo on one of his boxes and was mostly happy with the gentoo
> > implementation of it.  Apologies if I've confused unrelated issues.
>
> If someone is happy, that means nothing. Someone is even happy with
> Windows, despite all shareware crap, artificial limitations, pirated CDs
> with non-working cracks, mail worms,...
>
 Yeah, but the udev maintainer probably counts as a little more than
somebody.

> My hotplug patches currently in the book are created by fixing the
> problems I encountered, without any reference to Debian. I am not happy
> with unpatched hotplug, and I can point to problems. And I _do_
> understand what Debian patches accepted by me do.
>

 Good.  You're in advance of my understanding, I'm just trying to point
out that sometimes there are different approaches to deciding where the
error is, and how it should be fixed.

> As for udev, it is probably not buggy by itself. At least I found
> nothing (but that means nothing). It just changes the way of thinking
> and requires some rewriting of bootscripts (most affected: ALSA).
>
> >
> > [ mostly snipped ]
> >
> >>
> >>050_net.agent_ifupdown: debian specific network management with
> >>ifupdown. We have to do something similar sooner or later.
> >>
> >
> >
> >  The debian boot configuration management has to be the least-common way
> > of doing things, in my opinion.  I'd be very reluctant to follow their
> > lead in anything to do with bootscripts.  (not generally anti-debian, I
> > like a lot of what they do, but some of it is over the top).
>
> The problem is that for every network device found, hotplug logs a
> message: "How do I bring interfaces up on this distro?" We must either
> teach hotplug to bring interfaces up on LFS or declare that we don't
> support that.
>
>

 Ah, right.

Ken
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