Rally the Troops LFS/BLFS/CLFS/Livecd too

Dan Nicholson dbn.lists at gmail.com
Wed May 3 07:30:02 PDT 2006

Hi everyone,

On 4/30/06, Matt Darcy <lfs-list at projecthugo.co.uk> wrote:
> 1.) Kernel Headers, yes you knew this was coming but its certainly worth
> talking about, a lots been said on this but its really still unclear of
> direction. I suppose the discussion should center around
> a.) Do we stick with LLH and pray it takes off again

It's dead.  But I agree with Archaic that for LFS-6.2, a stable
release, this tried and true set should be used.

> b.) work with Jim's methods of sanitizing our own headers

I would be willing to go this route.  I also would like to consider
Jürg Billeter's sanitizing script.

> c.) Look at what other distros are doing and try to work with them
> d.) A N other option
> 2.) Udev -  This again has been a hot topic of many projects, but with
> LFS now dropping hotplug I feel it important ti discuss and clear up a
> few areas
> a.) Udev rules - how complete/incomplete should they be
> b.) which project cover which rules eg; lfs base only, blfs additional,
> clfs base+additional archs devices ? that sort of thing
> c.) what are the livecd doing with udev - removing hotplug ? what rules
> are they using ? etc
> d.) Should we all use the same rules lfs/livecd/cross-lfs/hlfs even ?
> e.) other topics aound udev
> 3.)  users and group creation, I'm reluctant to touch on this again as I
> know its close to a few individuals hearts and a lot of time has been
> put into this, but due to the ude discussion I think its worth at least
> touching upon.
> a.) do we define uuid/gid for users in LFS - I don't think this is an
> option and has to be done
> b.) how does blfs address this, does it specify uid/gid per user, does
> it speficy users and let the user map the uid/gid - does it do nothing
> and just you need an "X" user with X permissions
> c.) how do the uid's/gid's tie in with udev rules ? for all projects
> d.) do all projects use a unifrorm set of uid/gids and if so -how to we
> acomplish this?
> e.) other uid/gid points
> On a final note, I know this has been said to individuals before, and I
> preach a lot about it, but I'm hoping that with this discussion there is
> a real potential to bring all the projects closer together and more
> "agreed" on the direction the overall project is taking, even if
> projects go their own ways on things, at least it will be understood
> that X is doing it different because of X + Y and perhaps we can start
> sharing across-project information better and work as a bigger group better.
> Apologies if this mail seems to spell out the obvious, but I'd really
> like to say it public and try to get a consensus where everyone working
> say "yes, I understand this is what we are all doing - even if I don't
> agree"
> thanks,
> Matt
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