CLFS antics

[Robert Connolly]

LFS was sparked in the day of 32bit x86, and now 64bit is becoming popular, 
and LFS is finding itself supporting multiple architectures. ALFS is trying 
to make things easier with automation. HLFS has some add-ons. CLFS wants to 
support Sparc, Macintosh, and other architectures, and I think everyone else 
does too. BLFS is BLFS. It's a shame we can't all come to a common agreement 
for book and system design. We're a small group with a common goal to build a 
Linux from scratch... to take control of what is normally called 
a "distribution". This includes Greg's DIY Linux, who has done excellent work 
for our community.

We're short on leadership... someone who can define a compromise and reunite 
the forked projects. Efforts to discuss this sort of thing have typically 
failed, with a resolution to maintain sovereignty in each project.

I'm not experienced with diplomacy or leadership, but I know the ass end of 
it. I think our compeditor projects (outsiders) do not have our issues 
because $profit is the main goal, while our goals are really undefined. So we 
have a small community with undefined goals, and this is doomed to failure, 
yet maintained by love for what we are doing (albeit separately).

At this moment, I do not have an answer, but I ask for suggestions on how we 
can reunite, how we can move foreward together, instead of apart. I hope we 
can all agree that all the projects should be the same book, although making 
this usable for the reader, and developers, is a different story. I, 
personally, dismissed php because I don't have the time to learn how to write 
it. Same story with rpm scripts. I just want to give command lines and 
explain why, not explain it in different languages.

I think everyone would be happier if we all worked on the same book, if we 
could just find a friggen way to do it.

LFS will not fall as long as her people develop it. That that which is born 
still lives and can not be buried in the cold earth, but only waits to be 
born again. We will be the light when all other light has faded. (Drunken 
ramble).

Happy holidays.

robert

On Wednesday December 24 2008 01:01:50 pm Dan Nicholson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Greg Schafer <gschafer at zip.com.au> wrote:
> > If the LFS project had any kind of leadership with any kind of backbone,
> > there'd be serious consequences for this kind of divisive behavior.
>
> While I agree with your sentiments about Cross LFS creating a native
> book, what could the LFS leaders really do? CLFS forked a long time
> ago. Nobody can tell them what they can and can't do. That ship has
> sailed.
>
> --
> Dan


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