New personal experimental book [warning: lots of UTF-8 in this]

Ken Moffat zarniwhoop at ntlworld.com
Sun Sep 14 12:00:58 PDT 2008


On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:20:04PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:47:05 Ken Moffat wrote:
> 
> <Ken, if the LFS server again blacklists gmail, please forward this to the 
> list again>
 OK.  My own filters noted the following, which I think is normal
for gmail.  Anyone able to comment on this ?
X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=3.5
tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,
        FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB,SPF_PASS,URIBL_SBL
> 
> >  Well spotted, Sir!  I'd forgotten that in my clfs builds I do
> > indeed recode the messages and pages.  So much for my memory, and my
> > apologies for spreading confusion or lies.  The "guilty" part of the
> > script is now attached,  I guess my point now becomes "if even I can
> > do it, any fool can get an all-UTF-8 system".  Sorry.
> 
> Well, my point is that, by converting man messages you created a system that 
> cannot be converted to non-UTF-8 locale (i.e., repeated the mistake of RedHat 
> 8).
> 
> > > Could you please retest in any VTE-based terminal (sakura from
> > > http://www.pleyades.net/david/sakura.php is very lightweight, as well
> > > as termit from http://code.google.com/p/termit/wiki/TermIt ) or in
> > > uxterm? While your results already look well-done and convincing, I
> > > think that it would be even better to post screenshots showing the
> > > output of "locale", "yes --help" and "man foo" in one terminal window.
> >
> >  I'll maybe get around to trying other terms in a few days.  No
> > promises, I'm afraid.  Not quite sure if I've yet picked up
> > everything you want to establish - the earlier tests were just run
> > with 'LC_ALL=xx.YY-UTF-8 man foo' ?
> 
> I cancel this request, as we found the reason of your results. Although, I'd 
> like to see why you don't get this (or, what you get instead of this):
> 
> ===========
> [patrakov at home ~]$ LANG=nn_NO.UTF-8 man foo
> Cannot open the message catalog "man" for locale "nn_NO.UTF-8"
> (NLSPATH="<none>")
> 
> No manual entry for foo
> ===========
> 
> > > preceded by spam about NLSPATH?
> >
> > No, not on my modified clfs yesterday, nor on the LFS-6.3 I'm using
> > today.
> 
> Strange. I'll look further into this tomorrow.
> 
> -- 
> Alexander E. Patrakov

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