[lfs-support] still doesnt work right (after binutils pass 2)

Paige Thompson erratic at devel.ws
Wed Nov 14 13:42:53 PST 2012

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From: lfs-support-bounces at linuxfromscratch.org [mailto:lfs-support-bounces at linuxfromscratch.org] On Behalf Of Ken Moffat
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:05 PM
To: LFS Support List
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] still doesnt work right (after binutils pass 2)

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:34:00AM -0800, Paige Thompson wrote:
> - I'm not looking for fewer unusual problems, I want to learn how this works and figure out what's going on so I can solve these problems on my own. 
 Stage one: follow what others have done, and attempt to understand it.  Stage two, make your own changes, and see if you have enough experience and understanding to fix the problems.

> - I'm not using bleeding edge version of everything, I've gone through the trouble to check out the appropriate branches in all repositories and if that’s not enough, I've reset to specific commit hashes just to be sure. 
 OK, I saw you pulling lots of things into git trees.

> - I insist on adjusting my versions according to this: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/ if someone else can get that to work then I should be able to as well.

 Mostly - as I said in my reply while you were sending this out, it worked for someone (barring typos in what was committed) but it
*might* break something later (typically, something will fail to compile and need a patch or a sed - I've seen that happen with toolchain changes, but also with e.g. bison, grep)

> - you guys don’t post section 4.4 and 5.2 here ? 
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/

excuse me?

> - I'm sorry but the only reason I top-posted was to add additional information that I thought would be helpful in getting information as to what is going on with my toolchain. I also use a thread view email client.
 And you top-posted again, by failing to trim (or in this case remove entirely, now that the context is effectively lost by putting it somewhere below your individual replies) what I said :-)

 Yes, I know that is how windows users use email, but that doesn't make it right for a technical list.  Not everyone uses thread-view on all lists.

das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce
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Look at it from my perspective, I scroll through each e-email top to bottom every time I look at it for its context because I assume top or bottom is a matter of preference that is acceptable or it would be otherwise be indicated in a way that makes sense to me. You'd think I'd be biased, but I'm not... and I'm still not. K? I'll try to remember just for you guys. 

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